Tired of the blanket rule that you're either a member or you're out? If this sounds familiar, then you must read this ultimate response to organizatationalism which will set your spirit free.
In my searches of the internet, I recently came across a Sacred Name website (www.ynca.com) which contains a "members
only" discussion forum. The question which I have posed to them is as follows:
I am wondering how I might go about entering the discussion board? I desire to share and learn, but it says members only.... how does one become a member of
the discussion board?
To which I received the standard reply,
This board is used only by YNCA baptized members ........ Thankyou for your interest in YNCA.
My response to this is as follows, and may be considered as an open letter to all Assemblies, and individuals which have at any
time made use of, or been exposed to such standardized replies which promote membership, i.e. loyalty to any religious
organization or denomination.
To Whom It May Concern,
If you have the time, I would certainly appreciate some clarification regarding what it means to be a "baptized member" of
your organization, and thereby have access to your discussion board and other such things as are available to members only.
Mark 9:38-40. And Yohanan said unto Him, "Teacher, we saw someone who does not follow us casting out demons in Your
Name, and we forbade him because he does not follow us." And Yahshua said, "Do not forbid him, for no one who works a
miracle in My Name is able to readily speak evil of Me. For he who is not against us is for us."
In my search for truth, I have been unable to find a Scriptural foundation for the teaching of baptism into an organization;
rather, the point of focus given is immersion into the body of Yahshua, as pictured by the water, which in turn symbolizes the
"water of the word", or the Torah of Messiah.... all a study which I am presently undertaking. But from this, I am finding that
we truly become baptized into the name of Messiah through our obedience to his Torah, the immersion being merely an
outward showing of this. What concerns me is that there are many baptized members and leaders, which in truth, are not
Scripturally baptized at all, for they have overlooked the Torah-submittance which Elohim requires. So my findings are that
baptism, both inward and outward, goes far beyond myself, yourselves, or anyone else. I have been baptized into Yahshua's
body, and even attended Sukkot with your organization several years ago.... I was permitted to fellowship and share through
music at that time, without being immersed through your organization, and then I cannot help but wonder why this same
fellowship and sharing is not permitted over the internet. My impression was that your policy of baptism into YNCA was
changed when brother Nesser was baptized during Sukkot 2001.... and I hope that such decisions are not reversed once such
brothers are no longer with us.
If we guard ourselves with lock and key, there is no incentive for others to follow. There are many assemblies and individuals
such as myself serving Yahweh with their whole hearts without being members of any organization. And sadly, there are many
leaders and members inside the locked doors of organizationalism possessing ruined families, hardened hearts, and offspring
lost to the world.
1 Cor. 6:9. "Do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the reign of Elohim? Do not be deceived. Neither those who
whore, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor greedy of gain, nor drunkards, nor
revilers, nor swindlers shall inherit the reign of Elohim."
Rev. 22:14. "Blessed are they doing His commands, so that the authority shall be theirs unto the tree of life, and to enter in
through the gates into the city. But outside are the dogs and those who enchant with drugs and those who whore and the
murderers and the idolaters, and all who love and do falsehood."
During our fellowship with YNCA in 2001, we were informed by numerous elders that baptism preformed among YNCA and
most other Sacred Name assemblies was universally accepted as valid by all such assemblies. Now I cannot help but wonder
about those who are baptized by assemblies other than your own, such as YAIM, YRM, Frystown PA, Bethel PA, Eaton Rapids
MI, etc.; all of which share an almost identical basis of doctrine. So my question is whether those who committed their lives to
YHWH when they attended with another assembly are allowed to participate in your discussions without pledging their tithes
to YNCA. And even more so, I am wondering about individuals such as myself, who have not pledged their loyalty to any
assembly, but to Yahweh and Yahweh alone. Or is fellowship (especially internet) not allowed until such people are no longer a
member of those assemblies, (or in the case of my self, no longer a member of Yahweh and Yahweh alone)? Or does this extend
in that fellowship over the discussion board is not allowed until such individuals are re-baptized into Yahshua's name by
yourselves? Considering that YNCA came out of Bethel for certain reasons, I entreat you to not allow such exclusionary
measures and tactics from which you originally withdrew, thereby forming your own shul. If these once again present
themselves; the former division has been in vain, and ineffective in producing further unification with Messiah. We are all the
body of Messiah and it is Yahweh's intention that we learn and grow together. So please recall Yahshua's words, that "As you
have done unto the least of these, such have you done unto me." Will we be guilty at the judgement because we locked the door
when Yahshua came, and placed passwords preventing his entry into our discussion forums, merely because he was baptized by
"Yohannan Doe" instead of our religious organization?
"And I heard another voice from the heaven saying, 'Come out of her my people, lest you share in her sins, and lest you receive
of her plagues. Because her sins have piled up to reach the heaven, and Elohim has remembered her unrighteousness. Render to
her as she indeed did render, and repay her double according to her works. In the cup which she has mixed, mix for her double.
As much as she esteemed herself and lived riotously, so much torture and grief give to her, because in her heart she says, "I sit
as sovereigness, and I am not a widow, and I do not see mourning at all." Because of this her plagues shall come in one day:
death and mourning and scarcity of food. And she shall be burned up with fire, because Yahweh Elohim who judges her is
mighty.'" Revelation 18:4-8
YHWH save us, for Babylon is overcoming the assembly.
Upon posting the above over this website, I could not help but speculate and wonder about the response which I would receive,
considering that we reside in a world in which indoctrinates us from birth in the errors of organizationalism. The assembly to
which the message was originally sent has responded to some degree, and I will include what the Ruach has given in that
regards. First however, I wish to make mention that the Ruach HaKodesh is certainly at work, and this is evidenced by the
many favorable emails which we received, several of which I will first share below. May you all be blessed in the knowledge of
the truth which Messiah gives.
From Willis S., PA: Brothers and sisters in the Body of Messiah....I do agree with what concerns you raised with the group called
ynca.... I too have a similar testimony as yourselves....I have traveled this country for 30 years searching out different groups of so
called Sacred-name believers. I have learned many things, as a line upon line, and precept by precept from all these different groups
with the Qodesh Spirit guiding me only I pray to accept the Actual truths they had to offer. But sadly as yourselves I found them all
wanting. They all had certain truths but lacked the ability to go on unto perfection (Maturity) and actually love their brothers and
sisters as themselves, which as you know is the First commandment with promise.......
From Paige K., VA: Thank you Matthew. We......have just this Sabbath encountered a similar experience with the group that we
have been fellowshipping with. We have spent the last waking hours trying to decide what to do, or how to respond. AbbaYAH is so
good. I have just forwarded your message, since it is so very appropriate, to this group. Your are surely blessed by YAHWEH in
knowledge and wisdom. Keep up the faithful work.
From Alex J., PA: Matthew, that was an excellent letter in response to organizational arrogance: I too consider myself to be the
property of Yahweh, having been purchased for him by the blood of Yahshua. I consider an organization that promotes
'membership' to be on the wrong track, promoting loyalty to an organization rather than to Yahweh ........ It is a "Bethelonian"
mind set and a warning sign that something is wrong. Organizations cannot save you. Their job is to foster faith and encourage
personal relationships with Yahweh through music, fellowship, and teachings. Some put themselves in Yahshua's place: "We are
the way, the truth, and the light...." Shalom... keep the faith.
From Bro/Sis. G., ME: Yes, Babylon seems to be encroaching on the assemblies.
From Stephen D., PA: Thank you for sharing this message. As one who has experienced the cold exclusivity of the Bethel, PA
group, I concur with your concerns. Considering the environment of acrimony, adversity, and accusations in which certain Sacred
Name Movement groups seem to operate, I hardly find this exclusion surprising. Perhaps, your inquiry has even sounded alarms of
a potential mole attempting to make inroads. I any event, I wish you YAHWEH's abundant blessings.
From James K., http://wotmf.net: Thank you for your e-mail. With your kind permission I would like to post this as an article on
our site. You have addressed a subject close to my heart. Feel free to invite anyone to our discussion forum. Our community is open
to all who believe. Shalom.
YNCA replied on a different note:
Yahweh's New Covenant Assembly believes that both the Torah law and the example of Yahshua in the scriptures are to be kept and
followed. After the Holy spirit was given to those who followed the words of Peter in Acts 2 and the Messiah had returned to the
father the baptized members worked together in an assembly to carry out the work given them by Yahshua. The assembly at YNCA
works under the direction of the elders to carry out the commission given them in scripture. Unfortunately there are many false
teachers that use the Hebrew names of the father and son and keep the Sabbaths. The elders at YNCA strive to keep false teaching
and doctrine out of the teachings at YNCA both from within and without the assembly. The elders do not make judgements on the
baptisms of those not in YNCA. However the members of YNCA agree to work within the assembly under the direction of the elders
to carry out the work given in scripture. If you would like to learn more about YNCA please feel free to read and download our
literature from our web site free of charge. All made possible by the members of YNCA. (Acts 2:37-42)
In reply, the Ruach HaKadesh has poured out the following:
That no misunderstanding should arise, I supposed that ynca.com PROCLAIMED the Torah and example of Yahshua as
something which should be followed. The statement which I made however, was in regards to certain issues of immorality
among their ranks; issues which have become known among the scattered brethren, and yet remain Scripturally unresolved. To
believe and proclaim the Torah is good, but to do so without a lifestyle of Torah submittance only serves to make one an open
prey to ridicule from those outside of the assembly who maintain a higher standard than those within it.
The assembly of 2nd temple times was certainly composed of talmidim, both Yehudi and Greek, and order was carried out in a
fitting manner. Incidentally, another rule of thumb in the early assembly was that everyone (that included the teachers) had
ALL things common, and whosoever had houses or land, sold them, and gave the money to the poor.... yet I do not see very
many assemblies (YNCA included) adhering to that one very closely. But the point which I was referencing is that the assembly
of second temple times was not exclusive to those within it's bounds, for of a certainty, Moshiach taught and shared in the
synagogue, as well as learned from the Scribes as a youth. Sha'ul's instructor was Gamaliel, and he also observed the moed'im
with the Yehudim, as did the other scattered believers in Moshiach YAHshua. In these times, false doctrines circulated, just as
they do today. But the fact remains that Kepha and the other elders did not place barriers around the Jerusalem assembly....
Kepha saw the vision of the talit from Heaven, whereby he WENT OUT UNTO THE GOYIM, or the Gentiles, and partook of
fellowship, even breaking bread with them, in order that they might be accepted into the fold (supper's cooking, is YNCA
coming over?). When doctrines of falsehood arose, they became well known to ALL, and it was for this reason that Sha'ul would
entreat the assemblies in this regards, that they might see firsthand the errors of such ways.
What organizations do by keeping all opposing views at bay is create a body unequipped to combat the diseases of false doctrine
when they are eventually (and inevitably) exposed to them. Even worse, it creates a body which is unhealthy, for it has never
been introduced to the foods of truth which the elders of the body themselves refused to try. The requirements for a healthy
assembly are that NO ONE insists upon being right (i.e. refuses to change) in ALL given areas, and that NO ONE insists upon
being wrong (i.e. refuses to change) in ANY given area. I.e. Everyone is willing to learn, grow, and come to a deeper
understanding together. But as figures, the Assemblies have corrupted themselves, in that they insist upon breaking both of
these necessary rules for healthy growth in the Ruach.
YNCA has stated that their elders, "strive to keep false teaching and doctrine out of the teachings at YNCA both from within
and without the assembly." From their previous correspondence, I also gather that becoming a member of their group would
not involve becoming re-baptized, for such would be making a judgement on my former baptism, and they have stated that the
Elders in YNCA do not do this (may I make mention that this was NOT the picture which I got when I was there?). But if I were
to become a member of YNCA or any other assembly (which would also require a sound Scriptural basis for "Membership
Rosters" that I have been unable to find), then I would suddenly be allowed participation in their discussion forums, and in time
might even be ordained a higher position ...... such as "Deacon" or "Elder", etc ....... Oh wow! Upon becoming a member of this
organization (be it an assembly, ch-rch, etc.), it would probably require that my tithes be sent to the headquarters of that
religious organization, notwithstanding that their "board of Elders" did not fit the qualifications to be the Cohen'im Priesthood
by which Scripture commands that the tithe be received! But if I disregarded this, and gave 10% of my hypothetical
$250,000/yr. income (i.e. $25,000 hypothetical dollars each year), and then began to teach incorrect doctrines (either minor or
major), over that organization's forum or in their assemblies, what would they do? Would they first come to me with several
elders, even as Scripture commands be done, and show me where I was wrong? If I would not listen, would they then
excommunicate me (even as YNCA has virtually done, without even knowing what I believe?!!!) Would they then cast me out of
their Assembly, or would they allow me to remain because I was being an asset to them with my $25,000 tax deductible donation
each year? And lastly, if they came to me with several elders, and were unable to show me where my beliefs were wrong (i.e.
because I was correct), would they then change their statement of doctrine to accommodate this truth, or would they leave it
alone because it was already engraved upon their assemblies' "gravestone"? Or......would they affix an addendum with scotch
tape and throw it away as soon as I was dead and gone? By all appearances, YNCA has done this very thing upon the death of
the brother which would not be baptized in 2001 unless the "loyalty to YNCA" clause was removed from their baptismal
statement. This brethren, is shameful to behold in an organization which claims to be "Yahweh's New Covenant Assembly",
and such IS NOT following the example of the 2nd temple assembly, or that of the talmidim (taught ones) of which it was
But if issues of false doctrine were indeed a problem, then I have made a complete statement of beliefs available on this website,
and these are always under revision as the Ruach HaKadesh and other brothers in the belief reveal to us additional truth. It is
therefore possible for any organization to review these beliefs, and then raise objections to any which project a LOWER
STANDARD than our own. If none project a lower standard, then why do I still remain outside their discussion board, apart
from that they are: PRIVATE! MEMBERS ONLY, and only accessed by a fee which is paid to the Pastor, Priest, Rabbi, or
whatever he desires to be called? Under those circumstances, it is not an issue of doctrinal differences at all, but merely a club
which does not accept additional members for free! And under those circumstances, I have no desire whatsoever to learn more
about that religious organization or assembly, and will bear accurate witness as to why.
In regards to Acts 2:32-47, wherewith YNCA ended their reply, the following Scriptures seem to always be left behind in the
1 Corinthians 1:13-15. Has the Messiah been divided? Was [such-and-such organization] impaled for you, or were you
immersed in the name of [an assembly of men]? I thank Elohim that.....no one should say that I immersed into my own name
(i.e. into my own organization, whatever that may be).
Acts 10:44-48. ...The Ruach HaKadesh fell upon ALL those hearing the word. And those of the circumcision who believed were
astonished......because the gift of the Ruach has been poured out on the goyim also, for they were hearing them speaking with
tongues and extolling Elohim. Then Kepha answered, Is anyone able to forbid water that these should not be immersed who
have received the Ruach HaKadesh -- even as also we? And He commanded them to be immersed in the name of Yahshua
And yet they still get the order mixed up here, and tell me, as YNCA once did, that no one can have the Ruach HaKadesh until
they are immersed in the name of Yahshua. In that case, I suppose that there were no spirit filled believers during the period of
the earlier writings. And yet we have the spirit filled writings of the prophets which bear evidence that such teachings are a lie.
I have requested from YNCA, further clarity on the above, and to this date have received no reply. Therefore I am left to
suppose that the Ruach continues to preform her work. Perhaps some seeking individual may come across these messages in
time to come, and experience a release from the organizational ropes which attempt to tie the world and the Ruach down.
Please pass this message on, for it is much needed in our day. May the blessings of Almighty Yahweh be upon you all.
In Moshiach YAHshua,
From Harry H., New Brunswick, CANADA: I was glad to see your articles on the closed door policy which exists in so many of
the churches. You are handling the situation well and your answers are well grounded in scripture. We thank our Heavenly Father
for our contact with you.
Website Designed and maintained by the Coover Families, Copyright 2015 by Joy In The World